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#1 Killerdog

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:06 AM

Is SoL Toshi on the forum? I'd like to know how it was that PvP suddenly froze when it became his/her turn and it looked like a bad position. I waited 8 minutes before quitting as you can see by the screenshots.

Is this definitely a thing people can do or just a bug? And if it is what some people are doing on purpose then any idea how the Devs can tackle it? Like a forced retreat or a button which pops up after 4-5 minutes (varying randomly) of no moves being used by monsters that says "click to win" and the first to press it gets the win.

For now I'm just going to name the person I faced and provide the evidence to prove what happened on my end. Would've loved to get the win, you know?

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#2 SoL Navelstan

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:27 AM

No one of SoL members except me are on the forum.
If you wanna contact them, you can post in the Japanese community.
https://lobi.co/invite/YJrqy

#3 Killerdog

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 04:19 AM

Thanks for letting me know. Sadly it sounds like that's a language barrier which I can't cross.


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#4 SoL Navelstan

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 04:22 AM

You can post in English.
Lochi sometimes do that.
Then we will reply in English if we can.
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Posted 06 December 2017 - 05:13 AM

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 06:08 AM

Lol careful Killerdog, I made several posts exposing players due to this and people get really offensed trying to defend their teammates. But yes, this is definitely something people exploit. But devs don’t do anything about it and mods here like Lucrayzor lock threads similar to this because they’re afraid it makes some players look bad.

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 01:00 PM

Lol careful Killerdog, I made several posts exposing players due to this and people get really offensed trying to defend their teammates. But yes, this is definitely something people exploit. But devs don’t do anything about it and mods here like Lucrayzor lock threads similar to this because they’re afraid it makes some players look bad.

Actually we lock them because they inevitably turn into flame wars, which are against forum rules.
Also i believe it's very hard to actually exploit since from what I can tell you still get a loss afterwards. Assuming its similar to the dc you get from low battery signs anyway

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 01:45 PM

Check the previous 2 threads I made on this, I clearly explain why people do exploit it which is why I receive a loss and the cheater gets the W. And if you look at my last thread Lucrayzor made it clear that he was locking the thread because he was biased on the side of the accused.

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 02:55 PM

Showtime, have you played private matches?
Neo server is not so stable and sometimes hung up.
It’s a common glitch. I encountered the glitch hundreds of times.
Don’t disrespect other players by a pointless assumption.
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Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:11 PM

Showtime, have you played private matches?
Neo server is not so stable and sometimes hung up.
It’s a common glitch. I encountered the glitch hundreds of times.
Don’t disrespect other players by a pointless assumption.


Again, check my previous threads. There’s a difference between coincidences and patterns. When you’re losing these games due to “glitches” or “freezes” when you’re a few monsters from winning then it’s a lot more curious then losing them when the game first started. Nevertheless I never have issues when it’s a close fought game. Only when the game is pretty much decided.

#11 SoL Navelstan

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:26 PM

You should learn statistics.
You can’t conclude from a few cases.
If you see white crow, do you think all crows are white?

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:32 PM

You should learn statistics.
You can’t conclude from a few cases.
If you see white crow, do you think all crows are white?

And you should do research. Like I’ve mentioned many times, check the thread I made back in MARCH. One of the respected members of this community “LR cry is free” confirmed that this is a cheat (we are actively banning hackers and cheaters) that people exploit. He tested it many times. So take your white crow and fly away with it.

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:36 PM

No one except devs cannot conclude which is a cheat (we are actively banning hackers and cheaters).
If some players could do that intentionally, why are they not No. 1 player?
If you genuinely believe that is a cheat (we are actively banning hackers and cheaters), you’d better to send email to devs with opponent’s username, situation and time.
Flaming others here is counterproductive.
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Posted 06 December 2017 - 03:57 PM

Who’s to say they’re not top players? And again if the accusations are accurate these players would only need to freeze the game if the match had been decided. Which is when these “freezes” occur. And I’m not the only player who’ve experienced this. I’m just the only one who’s not scared to call people out. I’ve played hundreds of pvp matches and these freezes only happen when I’ve basically won. Those are a lot of white crows, buddy.

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 04:06 PM

Again you’d better to send email to devs with opponent’s username, situation and time.
Flaming others here is counterproductive.

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 04:16 PM

This isn’t my thread and I haven’t called anybody out by name. And the last person I called out I asked him to explain himself very similarly to what Killerdog is doing here. Nothing wrong with that, if anything it makes people more aware next time they’re in a battle with these players. Maybe aware enough to press the record button

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 05:15 PM

And the last person I called out I asked him to explain himself very similarly to what Killerdog is doing here

 

That thread you made was asking the guy to come explain himself but when people defended him you immediately jumped to accuse him of cheating, that's when they turned on you and locked the thread. You made your thread to call out that ***** was a cheater (unless he spoke otherwise) and to let it known to the community. I made my thread to point out how Toshi may be cheating and hoped that either he could talk back to me or others could say they had a similar experience fighting Toshi. I also hoped the Devs would take notice of some names that we mention may be using the PvP freeze exploit so they can go check out their accounts to find out what's going on and, if they are cheating, put in measures to detect it in the future. If the game could detect it and reward a win to the other person then that would be perfect, the problem would be solved.

 

P.S. Showtime I agreed with all previous mentions you've made about people freezing PvP. I'm just saying how the last thread you made went down from an impartial reader.


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Posted 06 December 2017 - 05:24 PM

I have legitimately beaten toshi several times and he hasn’t frozen once.

Sorry man, but if someone can do this reliably, then they would be top 1 on the leaderboard with a crap team.

Not to mention that the devs fixed the intentional freeze glitch. Go look at the update log for the game.

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Posted 06 December 2017 - 05:32 PM

I thought everybody by now knows pvp in this game has a very long history of freezing and crashes. I dont know if the older players here remember but they gave away devilborg as compensation just for that reason last year. There are a lot of factors that could result in a freeze in this game like volume of players in pvp straining the servers, different countries, different devices/platforms, 2 different os android/ios and the list goes on and on. Its the same story every pvp and unless you are a complete newbie in this game, you should know by now pvp is UNSTABLE. Geez how long you guys been playing a week? Is this your first pvp?
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Posted 06 December 2017 - 06:44 PM

I thought everybody by now knows pvp in this game has a very long history of freezing and crashes. I dont know if the older players here remember but they gave away devilborg as compensation just for that reason last year. There are a lot of factors that could result in a freeze in this game like volume of players in pvp straining the servers, different countries, different devices/platforms, 2 different os android/ios and the list goes on and on. Its the same story every pvp and unless you are a complete newbie in this game, you should know by now pvp is UNSTABLE. Geez how long you guys been playing a week? Is this your first pvp?


Seriously dude, that’s your comeback? I have receipts from back in 2013 from playing Hunter Island. That response is getting really old. I should’ve been investing in Bitcoin rather than playing a game but ya know different conversation for a different thread.




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